Does the U.S. Have a Secret Deal With China? Plus, MSG's Celebrity "Risk" List With Ben Rhodes

About this episode

Former national security adviser and cohost of Pod Save the World Ben Rhodes joins to discuss the conspiracy of an informal agreement between superpowers to stay out of each other’s spheres. In this episode: (00:00) Intro (3:15) Spheres of influence (21:55) Marco Rubio running Venezuela? (29:11) Let’s talk about drones (38:45) Ben Rhodes’s top conspiracies (43:59) Tips for the paranoid (48:58) The death of Lindsey Graham (51:42) Terrorists and AI (54:20) Waymo calls police on teens (55:46) The MSG celebrity “risk” list (1:00:00) Zara’s dangerous pants Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Ben Rhodes Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles Art direction: David Shoemaker Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton Engineering: Sarah Reddy Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff Additional support: Dae Shik Kim Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices