There’s Something Between Us | The Science of the Healer-Patient Connection at Harvard

About this episode

What happens in the space between a healer and the person they're healing? Is it technique? Trust? Belief? Or something science is only beginning to measure? We begin with Laurie Nealon, an energy healer in Massachusetts, and Alan Brown, from Brisbane — lifelong friends who hadn't seen each other in years when Alan's family came to visit. Over dinner, Laurie saw something in Alan she recognized immediately. What followed was a 20-minute kitchen table healing session that Alan describes as the most paradigm-shifting experience of his life: fire through the top of his head, a thousand volts releasing through his heart, and the sudden sense of something he hadn't felt before. Connection. Love. The coping mechanisms he'd relied on for years fell away. His practice transformed. Their story opens a question that takes us to two of the most rigorous researchers in the field. At Dartmouth, neuroscientist Tor Wager argues that the relationship, the belief, and the felt sense of being truly seen are not noise in the data — they are the data. At Harvard, Vitaly Napadow built a study to prove it: simultaneous brain imaging of clinician and patient in separate MRI machines, connected by liv