Sovereign Cloud: Who Really Owns Your Infrastructure? • Jake Warner & Charles Humble

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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted in May 2026. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/445 Jake Warner - Co-Founder & CEO at Cycle  @JakeWarner  Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant RESOURCES Jake https://bsky.app/profile/jakewarner.com https://x.com/jakewarner https://github.com/JakeWarner https://www.linkedin.com/in/jakewarner https://jakewarner.com Charles https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.social https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble https://conissaunce.com DESCRIPTION Jake Warner, co-founder and CEO of Cycle.io, traces a pattern he's watched repeat itself since his OpenStack days: a new orchestration technology arrives, developers adopt it enthusiastically, it grows in complexity, and organizations eventually ask whether managing it is really a core competency. He made a decade-long bet that Kubernetes would follow the same arc — and built Cycle as the answer: a distributed control plane that lets companies own their own infrastructure and compute while still getting a clean, platform-like experience on top of i