
The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 87 - Joerg Wuttke: China told Europe exactly how it would beat us. We didn't listen.
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The Trivium China Podcast
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Back in 2017, China’s former SASAC chairman told Joerg Wuttke, then president of the EU Chamber of Commerce in China, precisely which industries China’s overcapacity machine would roll through next: EVs, batteries, solar, wind, basic chemicals. Fast forward a decade, and it happened exactly as he predicted. • Joerg’s very blunt take: “China, in essence, is kind enough to tell us when and how they’re going to roll over us.” On this episode, Trivium China Podcast host Andrew Polk, along with co-host Cory Combs, sits down with Joerg – now a partner at DGA-Albright Stonebridge Group – to unpack: • Why “China Shock 2.0” isn’t really a shock at all, but a systemic feature of how Beijing plans its economy – which was written out in black and white years in advance • The shipping container math that captures the trade imbalance better than any dollar figure: one container now leaves Europe for China for every four that come back • Why Wuttke thinks a stronger renminbi, not tariffs, may be China’s real concession on the table before October’s EU-China trade negotiation deadline • The key Chinese tech sector Wuttke says Europe should consider closing its market to (and it’s not the one yo