Zak and Olivia June Williams: The Cycle Of Grief

About this episode

TW: Suicide In this week's episode, Tay sits down with Zak and Olivia June Williams, the couple behind mental wellness brand Pym, in a special episode closing out Suicide Awareness Month! Zak bravely opens up about losing his father Robin Williams to suicide and his journey through grief, PTSD, substance use, and recovery. He reflects on the unique experience of grieving a loved one so publicly, sharing that while the world lost Robin Williams, he lost his dad, and how that affected his ability to grieve privately and has shaped the way he parents his own children. Olivia also bravely shares her own grief journey after losing her sister to suicide, opens up about living with ADHD since her teens, and how discovering amino acid supplementation helped regulate her mood, which ultimately inspired the two of them to spend two years working with food scientists to create Pym together. Olivia shares how she has shown up for Zak through his grief without trying to solve it, and the two get candid about their individual therapy and healing journeys, how they know when the other needs support, and what communication looks like in their relationship. They also get into what it looks like to