The 70% Problem: What Still Needs Electrifying with Michael Liebreich

About this episode

This week, Helen Czerski catches up with Michael Liebreich on why hydrogen's hype is deflating, what the electrification staircase says we should do now, and why the energy transition is easier than it looks. 0:00 Introduction and welcome to Michael Liebreich 2:04 What is the "hydrogen soufflé"? 5:35 Hydrogen ladder 6.0: cheaper batteries and a growing "row of doom"  9:14 Why clean hydrogen will likely stay blue, and white hydrogen reality check 14:07 Wind and solar overtake gas, and the primary energy fallacy 18:45 Do fuel cells have a future? Data centres and backup power 21:29 The electrification staircase: the 70% still to electrify 32:56 Who it's for, plus noisy motorbikes, Orwell's coal fire and induction hobs 37:39 Trump, heatwaves, Hormuz and Australia's battery boom 47:13 Skiing, glaciers, "no cold turkey on progress", and the Cleaning Up plug Check out our sister channel Everything Electric CARS: https://www.youtube.com/@fullychargedshow Support our StopBurningStuff campaign: https://www.patreon.com/STOPBurningStuff Become an Everything Electric Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/fullychargedshow Become a YouTube member: use JOIN button above B