The Human Side of Counterintelligence | Pete A. Turner former US Army Intelligence

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Former U.S. Army counterintelligence special agent Pete Turner joins Chris for a conversation about what human intelligence actually looks like on the ground. Turner’s career ran from post–Cold War Germany and Bosnia through Egypt in the weeks after 9/11 to Iraq and Afghanistan, and he explains why the work turned less on stealing secrets than on access: winning over wary commanders, building rapport with sheikhs and district governors, and treating interpreters as partners rather than mouthpieces. Along the way he recounts a meeting he later learned the Taliban had called to look him over, and a colleague’s hunt for a district’s shadow governor that ended at the governor’s own door. Turner, host of the Break It Down Show, closes on what the job taught him about human nature. Subscribe and share to stay ahead in the world of intelligence, global issues, and current affairs. Find Pete on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PeteATurner/streams Listen to Pete’s podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/break-it-down-show/id941689175 https://open.spotify.com/show/1FcUXypxYsB2heFD3Q4gcm Support Secrets and Spies Become a “Friend of the Podcast” on Patreon for £3/$4: htt