
The Ben & Marc Show
China Has Mass. Can America Catch Up?
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The Ben & Marc Show
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Ben, Marc, and Erik Torenberg are joined by Brian Schimpf, Cofounder & CEO of Anduril, and Chris Power, Founder & CEO of Hadrian. Together, they dig into America’s defense production gap: why the U.S. can out-innovate but not out-produce—and what it will take to turn that around. They discuss why U.S. war games show we run out of munitions in a week, the myth of “exquisite-only” systems, how to rebuild industrial capacity with software-led automation, financing factories like data centers, and what it takes to create real deterrence in a Taiwan scenario. Timecodes: 0:00 Introduction 0:54 The Myth of Technical Superiority 3:31 Erosion of US Manufacturing 6:50 Challenges in Rebuilding Industrial Capacity 8:31 The Skilled Labor Crisis 15:01 Automation and the Future of Manufacturing 17:57 Supply Chain Vulnerabilities 26:05 Regulatory and Policy Barriers 36:49 Financial Engineering vs. Industrial Policy 46:15 US vs. China: Strategic Competition 46:55 The Taiwan Scenario & War Gaming 52:55 Demographics, Economics, and CCP Strategy Resources: Find Chris on X: https://x.com/chris_power Find Brian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bschimpf/ Marc on X